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2017-08-10 11:33:29 +08:00
回复了 cibe 创建的主题 音乐 网易云音乐大量下架。突然发现咪咕音乐还好
@Elix
但是它可能并未在合同中承诺提供哪些内容,这个意义上很难举证侵权了
2017-08-10 11:18:30 +08:00
回复了 mmv 创建的主题 程序员 这种情况,我能告赢微软吗?
@zhangneww windows10 技术上不允许停用自动更新
2017-08-10 09:08:25 +08:00
回复了 apisces 创建的主题 程序员 只想问问你们是怎么解决跨平台跨设备的书签问题的
@Returnear 等十一月的 firefox 57
@Domains
如你所说
@snow9312 可是这没有关系啊
2017-08-09 21:03:59 +08:00
回复了 mmv 创建的主题 程序员 这种情况,我能告赢微软吗?
一般认为在安装 windows10 的时候你已经了解
@tscat

整体来说免流这一部分是损害消费者利益的,因为多数的服务将因此付出不必要的更高成本。
这个帖子比较自圆其说,依据很充分。

1:解锁一般认为是 iPhone 方面的动画比较长带来的。

2:我不接受特定服务 /应用免流,它破坏了网络中立性。
但是联通最近搞得几个卡的流量单价确实便宜。
2017-08-09 15:34:43 +08:00
回复了 vitalbo 创建的主题 问与答 Youtube netflix 上画质最好的 4k stream 同蓝光原盘差距有多少
@ynyounuo

youtube 的 4k 很多时候用的是 vp9,编码效率比 h264 高了近一倍,netflix 用 h265 也类似。15mbps 的 h265/vp9 可以当作 30mbps 的 h264 看待。

如此大的码率区别在一些特定情况很好分辨,但是在一般情况下则不容易:

有高频率分量的场合(视频中间出现发布会常用的巨型屏幕,它在画面上的像素密度和视频的分辨率接近,难以压缩,码率一低很容易注意到画质衰减)
@cloudopt
看目前的情况我认为这件事情不能成立。

adblock 的涵义已经发展成了通用的内容拦截

内容拦截器有一个很重要的存在理由是,用户想不看到什么就至少能在程序 /用户的能力范围内做到它。

具体的实现可以是:
订阅任意的拦截规则
用户可以自行撰写任意的拦截规则
除了 adblock plus 语法之外的内容拦截形式( ublock )

这件事情你们会如何处理?
@cloudopt

我的怀疑是合理的,但你没有回答我的问题,而在顾左右言其它。

实际上你的回答可以很简单,针对浏览器扩展这一部分的产品增加额外的条款,把它和其它部分的不同列举出来即可。
@uyhyygyug1234

基础的文书工作都自相矛盾(而且是在非常关键的用户信息获取 /使用方面),不值得信任。
@cloudopt

你们在说谎
继续:


http://www.jianshu.com/p/06b4ffb0e66f

声称

“...我们收集的信息是绝对不会包含您的身份信息并且是匿名,我们也不会通过出售的您的信息来盈利。”



https://www.cloudopt.net/policy/privacy
则声称你们会收集一系列的可用于识别用户身份的信息,并会将其用于投放广告



- PII. Cloudopt will use this information:
- to carry out obligations arising from any contracts entered into with you and to provide you with the information, products and services that you request;
- to provide you with information about other Cloudopt products and services that are similar to those that you have already purchased or enquired about and to tell you about special offers;
- to provide you with reminders and renewal notifications relating to the Cloudopt products and services that you use;
- to notify you about changes to Cloudopt ’ s services or terms;
- to ensure that content from the site is presented in the most effective manner for you and for your computer;
- to allow you to participate in interactive features of Cloudopt ’ s service, when you choose to do so;
- to deliver relevant advertising to you. “

2017-08-09 11:23:17 +08:00
回复了 nutting 创建的主题 知乎 知乎的页面无语啊
新版的前端很好呀,又实用又好看
mbp 逃不了
2017-08-08 20:19:06 +08:00
回复了 tamlok 创建的主题 全球工单系统 叕被小米浏览器强奸了--后续
如果无法选择抛弃当前手机,你可以选中“关闭 miui 优化”,这样你的手机会比较像 android 一些
@silymore
倒不是这个意思。

通过收集用户信息换取屏蔽网页上广告的做法也大有人接受,比如 Chrome 平台最流行的去广告扩展 Adblock for chrome(它不是十几年前那个还只是 Firefox 扩展的 Adblock plus 的前身)就可能是这种类型,之前有人指控它收集用户的浏览历史。

而是希望它说清楚自身的定位,把话说明白,特别是它自己提供的文字材料里互相冲突的部分。
列举上面提到的扩展的部分隐私政策(全文进链接):


ublock origin:

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Privacy-policy

"
uBlock Origin has no home server.
uBlock Origin doesn't embed any kind of analytic hooks in its code.
The only time uBlock Origin connects to a remote server is to update the filter lists and other related assets
"


Privacy Badger:

https://www.eff.org/code/privacy/policy

"Generally, we do not store personally identifiable information (PII), including the IP addresses of users, when collecting bug reports or research data. However, on occasion, we may store IP addresses for limited debugging purposes. "

“ we may disclose personally identifiable information about you to third parties in limited circumstances, including: (1) with your consent; or (2) when we have a good faith belief it is required by law, such as pursuant to a subpoena or other judicial or administrative order.”

“ Sharing of datasets:
From time to time, we may share datasets derived from our technology projects with research partners working on topics related to Internet security, censorship resistance, privacy or other public policy objectives. We may also publish datasets in an effort to further these objectives. The datasets we may share or publish will not intentionally contain PII and we will evaluate whether further sanitization or aggregation of data is necessary to reduce the likelihood that inferences about identifiable individuals' activities might be made from the published dataset. Because anonymization is an algorithmically complex problem, we cannot promise that it will be flawless or attack-proof. When we believe that a dataset may contain information that is especially sensitive or vulnerable to de-anonymition, we will not publish it, and if we share share such data with research partners, we will place them under a contractual obligation to keep the dataset confidential and avoid de-anonymization.”

注意,它把 IP 地址当作 PII,但你们不是


Adblock Plus:

https://adblockplus.org/privacy

“ Extension update checks

Your browser periodically checks for updates of all your extensions including Adblock Plus. Some general information - browser version, extension version, operating system, date of last update and your IP address - are transmitted during an update check. Updates for Adblock Plus for Android and Internet Explorer are handled by the AdblockPlus.org website and the data transmitted is subject to its privacy policy. Updates to Adblock Plus for Firefox are handled by the Addons.Mozilla.Org website and are subject to the Firefox Privacy Policy. Updates to Adblock Plus for Chrome are handled by the Google Web Store website and are subject to the Google Privacy Policy. Updates to Adblock Plus for Opera are handled by the Opera Add-ons website and are subject to the Opera privacy policy. Updates to Adblock Plus for Safari are handled by the Safari Extensions website and are subject to the Apple Privacy Policy.

Subscription downloads

If you add filter subscriptions to your Adblock Plus installation, the subscription will be requested to regularly retrieve updates. Every update results in the hosting website receiving your IP address as well as some general information like your Adblock Plus version, browser and browser version. The processing of such data is not controlled by eyeo and is subject to the respective privacy terms of the provider of the website in question.

Furthermore, if a subscription download fails on several consecutive occasions, the updated address of the filter list is requested from the AdblockPlus.org domain. The data transmitted includes the Adblock Plus version, subscription address and any information about the error encountered. This data is used to identify issues that have not been reported by subscription maintainers and is subject to this Privacy Policy.”
比如你们的隐私条款里有这些明显不合适、令人怀疑动机的内容:


Information Cloudopt may collect:
- Information Cloudopt receives from other sources. Cloudopt works closely with third parties (including, for example, business partners and sub-contractors in technical, payment and delivery services, advertising networks, analytics providers, search information providers, credit reference agencies) and may receive information about you from them.

Cloudopt uses information about you in the following ways:

- to deliver relevant advertising to you.

- NPII. Cloudopt will use this information to test, develop and improve its products and to produce analytical, statistical and tracking data that will help it:
- to understand how the site is accessed and used;
- to administer the site and for internal operations, including troubleshooting, data analysis, testing, research, statistical and survey purposes;
- to improve the site to ensure that content is presented in the most effective manner for users; as part of Cloudopt ’ s efforts to keep the site safe and secure;


既然你们的产品是“通过拦截常见第三方跟踪系统保护您的隐私。”,那为什么自己要做这种事情?
@cloudopt 你们的产品和 ublock origin/ ublock origin + privacy badger 相比:

1,有什么异同?
比如 ublock 是基于 adblock plus 的超集规则的静态列表进行内容拦截+隐藏(css)的,而 pb 则有自动识别追踪用代码(域名)并加以拦截的能力。

2,覆盖范围有哪些差别?

3,上传哪些数据,其必要性在于哪里,上传的数据用于哪些用途,会把用户标识和其它信息关联吗?
比如 ghostery 的出资者是广告公司,它通过研究用户的屏蔽为广告公司服务。

再比如
3.1 书签+搜索是 omnbox 自带的功能,为何需要由你们重新制作一番?

3.2 你们的信誉功能和扩展 wot 相比,有什么特色?
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