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Kloudsec 倒了,真是遗憾。

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  •   isCyan · 2016-07-09 21:44:22 +08:00 via Android · 6573 次点击
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    Hi all,

    It is with great sadness that I have to inform you that Kloudsec is shutting down.

    Why is Kloudsec shutting down?

    1. We have been funding Kloudsec out of our own pocket
    2. Kloudsec is very expensive to maintain (upwards to $10000 / month)
    3. We are unable to make money from Kloudsec, nor raise any funds for it

    We will shut Kloudsec down on 1st August

    From now till then, we will not be maintaining the service.

    Migrating out of Kloudsec

    Migrating out of Kloudsec is extremely simple. All you have to do is to point your domain back at its origin server.

    You will lose the HTTPS cert. But you can fix that by
    * either issuing your own LetsEncrypt certificate
    * or using Cloudflare.

    Lessons learnt

    From the start, we are extremely lucky to have a small revenue stream that let us to experiment with cool products. And Kloudsec is one of our biggest experiment.

    There are a couple of things we did right, and a couple we did wrong.

    We did right by having the right team come together, building a seriously sophiscated product. (Thank you Ivan and Bach)

    We did wrong by building a sophiscated product that made it hard for a small team to maintain, let alone scale.

    We did wrong by building a product that was not immediately useful enough so much so that people will pay for.

    We did wrong by building a product that was too expensive to maintain.

    We did wrong by assuming that traction solves all ailments. Not in Singapore, you don't. There is no good venture money for real hard-tech software startups in Singapore.

    We did right with pulling the plug so we can learn from these mistakes and work on the next product.

    What's next for us

    From Kloudsec, we identified a few niche problems that we will be looking to solve. In other words, we will continually be building.

    And you can be sure from our next product onwards, we will charge right from day 1 so we can sustain the product financially.

    Lastly, thank you!

    Thank you. Most of you have spoken to me, or read the posts I've written on Github, on Hacker News, or Producthunt about Kloudsec. You guys took a leap of faith in trusting this small unknown team and product, and used us.

    I'm sorry to disappoint you with this piece of news, but I'll try better next time.

    If you like, you can follow me on Twitter at @nubela. You can also contact me at anytime at [email protected]

    Steven Goh.
    14 条回复    2016-07-14 17:35:29 +08:00
    mytsing520
        1
    mytsing520  
       2016-07-09 22:24:51 +08:00
    没有收入,光是提供免费版,那就是典型的玩票
    VmuTargh
        2
    VmuTargh  
       2016-07-09 22:36:31 +08:00
    @mytsing520 实际上 kloudsec 有很明确的商业模式,但是 SL 流量太贵啊……另外 Nubela 也卖 VPN 的,赚钱还是有的。
    mytsing520
        3
    mytsing520  
       2016-07-09 22:39:39 +08:00
    @VmuTargh 好吧,没用过,所以不了解,当我 1 楼的话没说就好
    Shino
        4
    Shino  
       2016-07-09 22:43:08 +08:00 via Android
    之前的数据库丢失应该是关停的导火索(我猜想数据没能抢救回来,并且 nubela 可能需要向付费用户做出赔偿)。
    UnisandK
        5
    UnisandK  
       2016-07-09 22:43:52 +08:00
    @Shino 从删库到跑路 doge
    DesignerSkyline
        6
    DesignerSkyline  
       2016-07-09 23:20:24 +08:00 via iPad
    @Shino 怪不得我怎么都登陆不上了。。。原来是因为数据库丢失了。。。
    Awoer
        7
    Awoer  
       2016-07-09 23:31:28 +08:00
    @VmuTargh SL 流量根本不贵啊。。。 300 刀 100TB 随便买- -
    qhxin
        8
    qhxin  
       2016-07-10 00:17:43 +08:00
    是的,一直在用,很桑心,不过确实这个项目盈利能力确实太薄弱了。
    god
        9
    god  
       2016-07-10 00:22:25 +08:00
    之前说的政府基金没申请到?
    VmuTargh
        10
    VmuTargh  
       2016-07-10 08:55:20 +08:00
    @Awoer 你得考虑到用户数量,还有节点。目前来看,丫开了 SGP LA AMS FF 这四个节点,而且目测还有更多
    superxzr
        11
    superxzr  
       2016-07-10 10:30:26 +08:00
    有客户群但没能实现盈利倒闭是迟早的事情。 他们算是交了一笔巨额学费..
    RanchoH
        12
    RanchoH  
       2016-07-10 10:42:25 +08:00
    @Shino 心碎,上次数据丢失发邮件说恢复后将邮件通知,然而下一封邮件就是关停通告……
    abel163
        13
    abel163  
       2016-07-11 11:13:34 +08:00
    不赚钱的商业模式都是耍流氓
    etnperlong
        14
    etnperlong  
       2016-07-14 17:35:29 +08:00
    心累啊!我的站点中招了
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